I’ve used the Phoenix for 2 60-day cycles, currently trying a third.

TLDR; venous leak. it’s mildly effective, but I seem to lose benefits a few weeks after stopping the treatment. Starting to use a penis pump daily to help with blood vessel growth without overdoing it


Just a bit on my history

- I have venous leakage. Got a Doppler test done twice a few years apart.
- I can’t keep an erection without stimulation or high arousal
- I can get erections, and Cialis helps with getting them. The venous leak just makes it difficult
-  erection is positional - keeping it while standing is difficult
- Even when hard, my glans is soft and not sensitive (if anyone has dealt with that let me know)


The first 30 days -  I’d get morning wood sometimes and my erections or semi-erections were ‘plumper’. Not a fix, but an improvement. I did shockwave around the venous leak area (base of the penis)

The second 30 days went about the same.

The third 30 days is what I’m on now.  I looked at what the novus clinic podcast/YouTubes recommended

* being diligent about pumping twice a day. The theory is the shockwaves induce healing in the area, and your body can grow blood vessels, but you want to pump to signal they’re being used. Note: it recommends against going too hard or they can break. Any bruising, red dots, etc

* looking at BPC-157. Some kind of healing peptide. I’m iffy on that, if only because of the cost

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So far more of the same. i might try the bpc 157 halfway through and on the fourth fully.

Also I think the phoenix uses a focused tip. They sell a concave radial tip as an accessory, but it seems less effective

I’ve tried something with a similar concept called Loverband. It acts similar -  a cockring for the upper part of the penis except it’s wrapped around your waist. This looks easier to wear

I have veinous leakage and hadinconsistent results with the lover band. It’s better then a cock ring for me - If anyone gets this let me know how it goes

Yeah my handle is intermittently breaking.

It’ll be fine sometimes. But some sessions, the impact goes way down, and then really hard before flipping back to normal.  If I increase/decrease the energy that can sometimes help

What email did you use to contact them?

Worst case.. have there been any other machines a few got that were more consistent?

Have you seen any research on the other two options?

I forgot the name, but they inject something in your penis to dilate the veins and see how blood flows through. For me it wasn’t hard to get erect, but some blood would leak out.

The shot wasn’t too painful (I’ve had blood draws that felt worse), but I was really uncomfortable for 30 mins after

Not direct experience - I pinged these guys out of curiosity because they specifically had a section on treating Venous Leakage. 

They wanted 3 days to do studies (Lab work, vascular, endograph) which seems fine, and 3 treatment options depending on what they see. 

* EndoStim (Carboxyl Penile Injection Therapy)
* Neosonic (Extracorporeal Shockwave Therapy)
* RejuvaHeart (External Counterpulsation Therapy)

The shockwave stuff I'm already trying at home, but I've never heard of the other two. 

Trying to figure out if any of these have merit or this is just sales