More and more men are having shockwave therapy to fix their erectile dysfunction, either at a clinic or self-administered. This is a forum to for men to discuss what experiences they have had, what treatment they used, and what results they obtained. The goal is to get men to share their ideas, trials, successes and failures in order to help other men working to improve their mojo as well.
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| How you do the treatments (settings, # pulses, etc.) » Is There Any Benefit to Using the Concave Head Without the Blue Cover? » 7/07/2020 7:39 am |
- HopefullD
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I used the blue one without the cover a little while ago and it sorta cut my peepee up. The edges of my concave head were pretty sharp so they ended up giving me some paper type cuts--not pleasant.
Convex head is fine and I use that without the cover
| How you do the treatments (settings, # pulses, etc.) » Lower energy, higher frequency vs. higher energy and lower frequency » 6/30/2020 8:27 am |
- HopefullD
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3,200 on shaft and 1,000 each crus
| How you do the treatments (settings, # pulses, etc.) » Lower energy, higher frequency vs. higher energy and lower frequency » 6/30/2020 7:25 am |
- HopefullD
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I've had my machine for a while now and not seen much improvement. I've not used it for a month or so, then gone back, and just not seen much.
I finally stepped back, read the posts by guys that have had it work better than most from what I've seen, and they regularly had lower energy. For the past week, I've dropped my energy from 90-100mj to 40-50mj, kept the frequency at 10hz or higher, and increased the number of "hits" to 5,000 on the penis shaft and 1,600 each crus. I'm seeing real improvement in terms of night time erections, and feeling of "being alive" in my groin. Just thought I'd drop my experience.
I'm going to keep going with this lower energy protocol and will update
| Experiences with professional shockwave therapy » Contrast feeling of Gainswave pulses vs pulses of our machine type? » 11/06/2019 4:19 pm |
- HopefullD
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Can anybody who has gone to a "professional" pulse wave provider, i.e. Gainswave or similar, how do the "pulses" from their machine heads feel compared to the machine heads you have at home? And, can you tell me what kind of machine you have at home, the model info? Thanks so much
I ask because it seems like there is some discrepancy in the mj/mm squared from Yobro and most of us. Interesting to see if the "pro's" feel like they hit less hard than ours--which may very well be turned up higher.
Thanks!
| Other experiences » a little light reading for those with vein leaks in their funsticks » 6/20/2019 1:19 pm |
- HopefullD
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I decided to do a little reading on vein leaks. I've not been diagnosed with one, but I'm thinking that's my problem based on the anecdotes from here and the limited reading I've done. Today, I read this:
The interesting focus of this article is that the collagen and elastic fibers ("ECM", which you'll read about in the next reading) in the Tunica Albuginea are different in those penises with veinous occlusions (vein leaks) causing the CC to not fully blocks the veins. A little later, it hit me that I remember reading that shockwave therapy has long been known to promote collagen synthesis...see here:
Here's a carve out from the article I just linked: "A tendon is a tough band of fibrous connective tissue, that usually connects muscle to bone and is capable of withstanding tension (1). Microscopically, the main components of tendons are the cells (tenocytes) and the Extra Cellular Matrix (ECM) (collagen, elastin, and ground substance).Due to overuse and trauma, tendons are subjected to tendinopathies. The “injury” generally results in inflammation and degeneration, or weakening, of the tendon, which may eventually lead to tendon rupture. It was believed, in the past, that tendons could not undergo to matrix turnover and that tenocytes were not capable of repair. However, it has been shown more recently that Matrix Metallo Proteinases (MMPs) have a very important role in the degradation and remodeling of the ECM during the healing process after a tendon injury. In response to repeated mechanical loading or injury, cytokines may be released by tenocytes and can induce the release of MMPs, causing degradation of the ECM and leading to recurring injury and chronic tendinopathies. A variety of other molecules are involved, on the contrary, in tend
| How you do the treatments (settings, # pulses, etc.) » My latest protocol » 4/25/2019 6:30 am |
- HopefullD
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It was a comment on your December 18 blog post. I followed the link to his clinic (he was probably looking to drum up business for himself--but that doesn't mean the viewpoint isn't worth looking at).
Anyway, after reading the link on here about the time differences between healing the tissue, destroying the tissue, etc...I was wondering if the longer wait time was good, then I read their protocol followed the longer healing period, so that's what got me to try it. Here's the link to their site:
| How you do the treatments (settings, # pulses, etc.) » My latest protocol » 4/22/2019 8:44 am |
- HopefullD
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Hey guys, after a month and a half of using it like a lot of people here, I switched it up based on some additional reading (I found a guy that commented on limpen's blog that works at an ED shockwave clinic and read up on their site). Also, the reading was supported by a link on here that says for "healing", shockwave should be done every 7-9 days.
So, I've alternated between 10 hz and 16 hz at 90-100 mj with the 15mm head; about 5000-7500 shocks (I know it seems like a lot, but I'm a nerdy "thorough" guy on stuff like this). I've rotated between the lower and higher HZ in hopes that the depth of the cavitation being changed up helped "heal" more of the tissue. From readings, the higher the HZ, the deeper the cavitation goes. So, I was hoping to go anywhere from "surface" tissues to deeper stuff. The treatments have been spaced at least 7 days apart for 6 weeks.
Now, I wait three weeks, then will probably start another 6 week "on" cycle and 3 week "off" cycle. Following this regimen has made a remarkably improved experience for me over the way I initially did treatments:
10-16 HZ, 10-15 mj, 15 mm head, performed every few days.
I believe the improved results are due to a couple things:
1) the increased pressure...I fought this because the studies said basically, the lower the pressure the greater results, but I think my math was off and I trusted Limppen's advice
2) The longer rest period each time to allow for maximum healing
3) modifying the HZ so that tissue from the surface to the center was being affected with each "tissue depth" having more like two weeks to recover before being zapped again.
| How you do the treatments (settings, # pulses, etc.) » My intense therapy » 3/12/2019 6:37 am |
- HopefullD
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dicklimppen wrote:
My machine's ED settings also don't go high enough so I use a different setting that allows more strength. 30mJ is pretty weak, and yes, it does sound like a jackhammer. I believe that 2 bars is about 90mJ.
I'm doing it at 130 mJ.
Whoa, wait, what? I thought the studies (so far) indicate the ideal energy in the treatment is 0.09 mj/mm². So, if that's the case, doesn't the math look like this: 15mj/176mm²=.085 ? The 176mm² is determined by 3.14*(7.5mm*7.5mm). So, the ideal energy SHOULD be right around 16mj, right?
I'll look for the study I read. It was an interesting study that basically compared multiple other studies and conducted a meta-analysis. Based on the data collected from these multiple studies, the sweet spot seemed to be that .09mj/mm² energy.
I guess my question would be for those who feel like the treatments have helped. What energy level were using? I too have felt that the .09 (or approx 15mj) energy didn't feel like much, but I thought I should follow protocol. What is the experience of others?
| Experiences with DIY shockwave » Machine recommendations? » 2/27/2019 7:40 am |
- HopefullD
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Here's a video of the SW10c that I recently purchased.
That says 10b on the video, and is different than the "10c" that I bought from beautytsl.com. The handle allows for starting and stopping of the shocks, as well as increasing and decreasing the energy and the frequency.
So far, i'm pretty pleased, but can't be certain, haven't been using it long enough
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