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I'm Al. I've been looking at these shockwave machines for about a year, but have found them more expensive than I could afford to buy - especially taking a chance with an unknown company in a foreign country, where I couldn't got beat someone up, if I discovered I'd been ripped off! LOL! ![]()
At any rate, I'd come across the Ginha 3621 on eBay and stumbled across this forum while doing research into the product. You guys seem like a fun, albeit similarly-afflicted bunch, so I decided to jump in, even though I have not yet purchased a product or started any type of therapy. In my early 50s, this condition has really burdened my spirit, as "the work" of erectile function has always been something that I did well and prided myself on. Now, I know how Michael Jordan must feel not being able to play basketball. LOL! But, Hell ... at least he's got a professional sports team and a satchel full of loot to show for the work he has already put in. I am encouraged, however, hearing from you gents already in this undesired family grouping, and I wish you all the best of fortune with your efforts.
Last edited by Al (11/25/2019 4:54 am)
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Welcome Al. Please let us know how your treatments go.
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Welcome Al. Please let us know what machine you decide to buy.
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OK. So, I ended up buying the 1602 through eBay. It arrived while I was out of town, and I was eager to check it out upon my return. Unfortunately, I lost my laptop on my return trip, along with all of the info, articles, medical journal info, data, settings info, etc. that I had amassed prior to diving in. {Great, right?!
}. Additionally, I realized that I also forgot to get ultrasound or numbing gel. Still ... eager to see how the machine works, I put on the head that I think was supposed to be for ED (the uniquely-shaped, non-round one); put head to shaft; pressed the button with the picture of a pelvis; and flicked the power switch.
YEEOUCH!!!!! That thing felt like I'd laid my flaccid dick on a piece of metal and began to bang it with a blacksmith's hammer! I could only take about 4 "bangs" on each of the 3 sides that I tried.
So, I'm guessing that the numbing creme/gel is highly recommended, as is starting the therapy with a least a semi-rigid pipe, so the old guy had some fortitude to withstand the bangs, eh? Is there anything else you experienced guys would recommend? Also, what Pulse/Frequency settings are the prevailing recommendations? I've lost all my notes on that question.
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I don't use any numbing cream and I've never tried it with a semi. The application isn't like getting a massage but it the discomfort is bearable. I do recommend the ultrasound gel, if nothing else than it makes gliding the head around easier. Here are my current settings:
90 mJ
9 HZ
4500 applications (1000 each side of the shaft and curas, 500 to glans)
35 mm applicator
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i don't use numbing cream and never tried with a simi either.
anywhere from 4 bar to 8 bar
anywhere from 4 HZ to 12 HZ
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Don't use that non round one!!
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I don't use numbing cream. Even at the highest setting I've tried (briefly), 120mJ (with my largest applicator - 41mm diameter), the shocks were not painful. Some sharpness, but I could also use that description for chugging an India Pale Ale.
My current rule of thumb (sorry for the horrible mixed metaphor. "Rule of penis" more accurate but...???) - if my penis is so beat up that it can't get up off the canvas at the end of the session, then I know I overdid it.