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It is past time for me to write up my DIY experiences. Spoiler alert: It’s working!
Each session:
Large applicator (about 41.3mm diameter); 90mJ energy; 3Hz. I used ultrasound gel.
400 shocks at the base of the penis
500 shocks mid-shaft
500 shocks near the top, just below the glans
400 shocks applied to left side the glans (glans bent to the right), pointing applicator straight down.
400 shocks applied to right side of the glans (glans bent to the left) pointing applicator straight down.
Starting shocks at the bottom and working my way up tended to keep the slippery gel out of the way for most of the session.
All shocks were delivered with the penis stretched so it was under tension with the applicator very firmly pressed against it. Shocks to the shaft were delivered with the applicator pointing away from my body. With shocks to the glans I was attempting to deliver shocks right “down the pipe” (i.e., the corpora cavernosa) at a 90 degree angle to the first three sets of shocks.
No shocks were delivered to the crura. I tried to avoid delivering shocks that might hit the prostate or other internal organs. The short and long term effects of shocks to the prostate are unknown. None of the ED shockwave studies has the slightest interest in finding out. So my feeling is if you can get benefit and sidestep this unknown, you are better off. Even if I didn’t have prostate cancer, I would want to avoid shocking internal organs in the genital area.
While delivering shocks to the glans I was also getting some shock in my index finger and thumb which were wrapped around the penis below the glans and providing tension to the penis. I can see why studies avoid shocking the glans – special equipment would be needed to do this otherwise a technician would be shocking him or herself with each patient. Also, for study purposes there could be a need for consideration of differences between circumcised and uncircumcised men. However, I’m not running a study, these shocks seemed useful, and there were not enough shocks to bother my hand.
Background on my ED
My feeling is that my ED was due to more than one factor: Age, mild hypertension, a few extra pounds, as well as my prostate cancer (Gleason 6, non-aggressive, thankfully). So my self-evaluation was that just slamming my penis with shockwaves was probably not going to get me maximum benefit. It would take a whole training program with DIY shockwaves as the centerpiece. Having the machine and the ritual of twice a week shocks was a mental boost providing support for changes in my diet and exercise.
My philosophy
Which brings up a point – the medical establishment categorizes pretty much every problem with a body as a “disease”, and the remedy as a “treatment.” People who have participated in sports might look at a problem like ED and conclude the issue is the person (patient?) is out of shape and what’s needed is a training program. My feeling is that depending on the nature of the ED, it could be one or the other, or some combination of both.
Doing bicep curls will cause growth of veins in the arms. Bodybuilders have thick veins in their arms. This takes years of work to achieve. So the idea that six sessions with a shock wave machine reaches the limit of angiogenesis is laughable. The studies that repeated six sessions after a three week break reported further patient improvement. One of the studies I read speculated that a third round of six sessions might continue improvement, but the study protocol did not include this.
From what I can tell, the studies are paid for by equipment manufacturers. They have an interest in successful study outcomes, but also in a treatment plan that is in an affordable price range. There will be a lot fewer takers for a plan that costs say $12,000 than a $3,000 one. Peak performance is not the goal – “just good enough” is perfect.
So it seems to me that we DIYers are hugely advantaged in that however long it takes to get whatever benefit we are after, there is no additional cost. We are in training as well as treatment.
My self-evaluation was that as much as anything else, my body and private parts were out of shape so I needed a program to work on everything.
My program
After reading everything I could find and viewing many YouTube videos I arrived at some goals:
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Great write up Yobro. Appreciate you taking the time to do it.
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Thank you for your write up.
I am also, for the time being, avoiding the crura.
So at 90mj and 3hz, about how long does the session take?
And just for confirmation, so you have your limp penis stretched out.
Do you put the head of the machine lightly against the penis, or is it buried in to your tissue so that you can really feel the jack hammering?
Last edited by maomao (7/22/2019 2:01 am)
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3Hz = 3 shocks per second. My session is 2200 shocks, so...
2200 / 3 = 733.3 seconds = 12.2 minutes of shocking. The session takes about 20 minutes total with smearing gel, adjusting the machine and cleaning up afterwards.
I stretch out my penis and hold the applicator very firmly against it to get solid contact. Yeah, I can feel it hammering. It's not painful with the large applicator I'm using. It might hurt with a small applicator - I don't know, I didn't try that.
My initial results seem to be fading a bit. Still a net improvement, but not as pronounced as last week, for whatever reason.
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Interesting, with the low Hz approach being effective. I am a big believer with low energy and have had excellent results with 15 MJ and 10 Hz. I don't really have ED anymore - other than it still takes longer than it used to get hard. For my next follow up round, I might try lower the Hz.