Shockwave for Erectile Dysfunction

More and more men are having shockwave therapy to fix their erectile dysfunction, either at a clinic or self-administered. This is a forum to for men to discuss what experiences they have had, what treatment they used, and what results they obtained.  The goal is to get men to share their ideas, trials, successes and failures in order to help other men working to improve their mojo as well.

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6/04/2019 6:51 am  #1


My KmsLaser SW5S device experience journal

I gave myself my first SW treatment this morning.

Here are the parameters that I have used:
Head diameter: 15 mm convex
Freq: 14Hz
Energy: 90 mJ
1000 impacts x3 (left side and right side and underside where the Corpus spongiosum is)
500 x2 (left and right crus)

I did follow the SW treatment with a 3o minutes pump session at low pressure (5.5 In. Hg)

Impression: It felt like some sort of swedish massage for the penis. I was expecting the experience to be almost painful but it wasn't. I was curious to send waves on my glans but it did turn out to not be such a great idea. Not painful but not pleasant neither. Since I haven't read anywhere that you could get any benefits from hitting the glans, I'll probably remove this option out of the list of experiments that could be done.

It almost made me wonder if that would anything at all and if I shouldn't try to crank up the intensity a little bit. but I'm going to report back how my erections are in the next few days/weeks and only change something if I don't get any improvements. The only thing that I might add is a 1000 hits fourth pass on the top of my shaft.

One question that I have is that being a device owner, what should be the best usage pattern for the device. I guess that if I went see an urologist, I would only got at max one treatment per year with their $500 price but with having a machine at home, sky is the limit but you don't want to overdo neither. I think that I'll do 12 weekly sessions and take a 3 months break and alternate the on/off on a 3 month basis...

Penis state after the treatment: When I did complete my pumping session, I had the impression that my erect size was bigger by having done the SW session before than when I just do the pumping.

Now as I write this, I have this gentle tickling sensation inside my penis and I feel like my flacid size is a bit bigger than usual. No idea if it is placebo or real, but I'm going to surf on the SW faith wave and see what happens next.

Stay tuned!

Last edited by iwantharder (6/04/2019 6:52 am)

 

6/04/2019 1:56 pm  #2


Re: My KmsLaser SW5S device experience journal

Good luch Iwantharder please keep us updated.

 

6/05/2019 5:10 am  #3


Re: My KmsLaser SW5S device experience journal

Hey Iwantharder,

Yes, you should do the glans also. It the most uncomfortable part for me. Also, don't expect immediate results. Please keep us  up-to-date on your treatment and results. Would you mind if I posted them to the blog?

Dick

 

6/05/2019 7:31 am  #4


Re: My KmsLaser SW5S device experience journal

sure go ahead. and feel free to alter my nick as you see fit ;-)

if I can. What is the rational for doing the glans as well? Better vascularization of that part too?

I haven't seen any references on your blog discussing this aspect. The YT video demo, was only showing the application the each side of the shafts and the crus.

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6/05/2019 2:36 pm  #5


Re: My KmsLaser SW5S device experience journal

iwantharder wrote:

if I can. What is the rational for doing the glans as well? Better vascularization of that part too?

I haven't seen any references on your blog discussing this aspect. The YT video demo, was only showing the application the each side of the shafts and the crus.

I've seen some treatment videos where they hit the glans also.

 

6/05/2019 4:36 pm  #6


Re: My KmsLaser SW5S device experience journal

ah ok. then I'll keep doing it but I will certainly not do 1000 hits there....

If you find back that video, please share the link to it. I would be curious to see how they do it.

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6/05/2019 5:40 pm  #7


Re: My KmsLaser SW5S device experience journal

I can tell you from experience that Gainswave avoids hitting the glans. My guess is because of all the nerve endings there.

 

6/06/2019 2:33 am  #8


Re: My KmsLaser SW5S device experience journal

@DZappa did gainswave  work for you? (Sorry if I asked you this uestion before. Its hard to keep track)

 

6/19/2019 10:20 pm  #9


Re: My KmsLaser SW5S device experience journal

90mJ with a 15mm applicator?

The surface area of this applicator is:
7.5 x 7.5 x 3.14 = 176.6mm(2)

The energy density you are using is:

90mJ / 176.6mm(2) = 0.51mJ/mm(2)

My understanding is that this is above the range of low intensity shock waves.  You are in uncharted territory.  The most frequent energy density I've seen in published studies is 0.09mJ/mm(2).  Some studies use more - I recall seeing one at 0.25mJ/mm(2), but nothing higher than that, and that one was an outlier.

High intensity shock waves can destroy tissue.  Be careful out there!
 

 

6/20/2019 6:48 pm  #10


Re: My KmsLaser SW5S device experience journal

Yobro wrote:

90mJ with a 15mm applicator?

The surface area of this applicator is:
7.5 x 7.5 x 3.14 = 176.6mm(2)

The energy density you are using is:

90mJ / 176.6mm(2) = 0.51mJ/mm(2)

My understanding is that this is above the range of low intensity shock waves.  You are in uncharted territory.  The most frequent energy density I've seen in published studies is 0.09mJ/mm(2).  Some studies use more - I recall seeing one at 0.25mJ/mm(2), but nothing higher than that, and that one was an outlier.

High intensity shock waves can destroy tissue.  Be careful out there!
 

Calculating the mJ/mm2 is not as simple as it seems. There is much more to it. See these posts:

https://shockwavefored.blogspot.com/2019/03/more-on-strength-settings-bars-mj-and.html

https://shockwavefored.blogspot.com/2018/09/what-is-mj-mjmm2-and-hz.html

Dick

 

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