Ok, so i do 2x 9 minutes on penis left and right and 2x 4minutes on perrineum. 
So that is 26min every 3 days, that's nothing really. 

Perinneum hurts much more. 
2 herz. 
I read on machine that power setting (goes from 1-12) on 2 where i have it is 20mj
Gotta look up how much i need on my 15mm flat thing (i use it with flexible plastic cover) i need to get the 09mg/mm2

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The other thing, the phallo max electrostimulation takes much longer. 
If i do all 3 programs, that's 1,5hours. 
I guess i can do it next to computer work when i sit in front of pc anway and work. 
And i use one leftover electrocutor to put on my chest muscle )
 

Last edited by Dream (3/07/2021 10:56 am)

First 3 Weeks done! 
Did 1 session every 3 days, so 7 sessions shockwave

"Plan is to do 2 treatments per week with 3000 pulses for 3 weeks, then 3 weeks pause, and do 3 rounds of this total..
and then go to 2 bi-weekly treatments for 3 weeks and pause of 8 weeks for rest of life"

So, now 3 weeks pause, then 3 weeks of treatments again. 

So far results: 
Don't think i felt any change. 
I have a log of whenever something surprises me. 
But there was just: One morning erection (which i have seldom), and one time getting erect when shockwaving


Please take a look and tell me if this looks correctly, i made a video:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1w9lvAU9QKIbcVGwCa6_E439CoH7WMTTm/view?usp=sharing

(additional: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uE5ZnbxE2blSh0Vjw_VjW8sCcMLOIA5Y/view?usp=sharing)

 

https://www.shockwavetherapy.education/index.php/theory/types-of-shockwave
-> this website is very interesting in general! A total goldmine!!

Compressed Airbar               Magnetic mJ               Energy per mm using 15mm head mJ/mm2
1 bar                                        60mj
2 bar                                        90mj
3 bar                                       120mj                       0.12 
4 bar                                       150mj                    
5 bar                                       180mj                       0.38

Using a hand held applicator these waves are transmitted up to 35mm into the patient's body (Ammendolia et al, 2001)

The depth a concusive shockwave can reach depends on the force at which the shockwave is produced (Cleveland, Chitnis and McClure, 2007). The higher the input of energy the deeper the shock will travel and the more energy will be transmitted into the tissues. Generally the shockwave produced is believed to travel out from the head of the machine in a cylindrical shape with very little energy outside of the physical size of the head i.e. a 15mm round head will give a 15mm round shock wave

Below are 3 common examples of force and depth using a 15mm round head with a 0.7mm convex strike plate: (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17467154/)
1 bar or 60mj: 1cm into the body
2 bar or 90mj: 2.2cm into the body
3 bar or 120mj: 3.9cm into the body
(but: don't know which herz that is at, see later that this really also has effect on how far it goes inward
But from the sound of the abstract, they just did 1 shock - probably simillar to 1 herz)

Omg, that is so useful!!
So, my penis flaccid on thickest point is 4.5cm. 
So.. i guess i want the shockwaves to go into at least half of that - so when i do all sides, that it reaches all of penis. So 90mj with 2.2cm is close enough to 2.25cm (half of 4.5cm)

So, instead of 20mj i did right now (oriented towards Srini protocoll) i wanna do 90mj now!

But: i don't want to do the underside of course, cause there is no erectile tissue but more urethra:
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Morteza-Karkan/publication/316592651/figure/fig1/AS:677022552571904@1538426163166/Schematic-penis-anatomy.png

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Website continous (with pics and stuff):

Convex (bent outward) vs concave (bent inward) head: 
Convex head makes effect on more wider area,
concave head makes effect more concentrated on a smaller area. 
-> not sure what is better for our purposesFrequencies in Shockwave Treatment:The effect of changing the frequency of shockwave therapy know as the pulse rate frequency (or PRF for short) may be more than just for comfort. Higher frequencies 14+hz are described by patients as feeling easier. Lower frequencies 8-12hz are often described as feeling more painful. Authors have suggested using higher frequencies at the beginning of treatment to familiarise or acclimatise the patient to the sensation then work down to the desired frequency in stages e.g. 200 shocks at 16hz then 200 at 14hz then 200 at 12hz aiming for 10hz in the end for the desired 2000 shocks.Huber, Jöchle and Debus (1998) have shown that low frequencies (0.5hz-5hz) cause much less cavitation during treatment (there is little effect on cavitation bubble lifespan or size) whereas high frequencies (above 5hz) cause many more cavitations which increase in number with increasing speed/frequency. However, it must be noted that although increasing frequency increased the number of cavitations it did not increase the size of those cavitations; only pressure (energy delivery per mm) can do that.Increasing frequency affects the depth of wave penetration (as lower frequency waves travel further than higher frequency waves). As can be seen below high frequency waves travel less distance (below are depictions of different wave frequencies on a gold film, adapted from Telford, Geldart and Sheriff, 1990). Ok, so Summary:
- high frequencies (above 5hz) cause many more cavitations which increase in number with increasing speed/frequency
-> so.. better have more herz, over 5 (not at all like srini protocoll)
BUT: Did they compare it per herz or per minute? Of course if i do 10minutes of each, then the high frequenzies make much more cavities than low frequenzies, this seems logical. 
But if i just do longer with less herz i could get the same result?
- But lower frequency waves travel further than higher frequency  waves
- pressure (energy delivery per mm) increase the size of those cavitations

Increasing frequency affects the depth of wave penetration (as lower frequency waves travel further than higher frequency waves). As can be seen below high frequency waves travel less distance
So increasing frequency can be used to decrease treatment depth whilst maintaining shock energy
you can create stronger effects at lower depths by increasing both the frequency and the power
[size=125]->So, this makes it more complicated again, i would like to know at above example how deep it reaches with different MJ's energy with 15mm head and what is right for my penis - but now i don't know how many herz they used, cause this also affects how deep it goes.[/size]

So, do this: 
- 90mj Pressure to get some depth (and it also increases size of cavities)
- 1 herz (most depth, probably the depth i need with 90mj) and i just do it for longer time, so i get the same amount of pulses as with higher herz frequenzy
- change from concave head to convex head
- also don't use blue cover but use condom instead; and use ultrasound gel

Last edited by Dream (4/19/2021 3:05 pm)

https://www.shockwavetherapy.education/index.php/theory/gel-or-oil

Castor oil is better but more impractical than ultrasound gel

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https://www.shockwavetherapy.education/index.php/theory/hisotry Dosage of Radial Shockwave
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Destruction of tissue

Increased biological effects (healing, blood supply etc)

Pain reduction

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destruction: over 105mj
healing: 60-90mj
pain reduction: 60-90mj

How often - they say stuff like every 7-10 days
for stuff on knee and such

 

Last edited by Dream (4/20/2021 11:37 am)

Hey, Thanks!

Yea, i am a bit curious about my second round