Shockwave for Erectile Dysfunction

More and more men are having shockwave therapy to fix their erectile dysfunction, either at a clinic or self-administered. This is a forum to for men to discuss what experiences they have had, what treatment they used, and what results they obtained.  The goal is to get men to share their ideas, trials, successes and failures in order to help other men working to improve their mojo as well.

You are not logged in. Would you like to login or register?



7/18/2021 6:19 am  #11


Re: Cyclodextrin- Is Curing My ED

I don't think those injections would be suitable for clearing the CC (cholesterol crystals) due to the molecules already carrying another drug. 
Study very carefully because how the molecule works is that when it is empty it absorbs fats. In other words when used with other molecules as a carrier it it already full so to speak.

Not a chemist but that would make sense.

Also note I am trying it by direct injection , however the penile injection is not necessary for CD (cyclodextrin) to work. You can either use a retained enema or subcutaneous injection. I tried a intramuscular injection and don't suggest it ..pretty painful. The subcutaneous injection feels like you got stung by something but is tolerable. The enema is not noticeable except the urge to go to the potty lol.

Last edited by Groovin1 (7/18/2021 6:22 am)

 

7/18/2021 7:31 am  #12


Re: Cyclodextrin- Is Curing My ED

Groovin1 wrote:

So this drug when taken directly (can not be consumed orally due to the digestive system eating it)

This study shows it works when taken orally:
https://lipidworld.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12944-016-0284-6

 

 

7/18/2021 7:38 am  #13


Re: Cyclodextrin- Is Curing My ED

Groovin1 wrote:

They can't patent it...that's why..

Drug companies don't want to spend megabucks on doing tests to see if an old drug can be used for different medical problems since they will get nothing out of it. 
 

 

7/18/2021 10:14 am  #14


Re: Cyclodextrin- Is Curing My ED

dicklimppen wrote:

Groovin1 wrote:

They can't patent it...that's why..

Drug companies don't want to spend megabucks on doing tests to see if an old drug can be used for different medical problems since they will get nothing out of it. 
 

 
Exactly , the patent is everything look at Viagra, discovered by accident when used as a drug to help heart patients. They had a patent already, when released it was $10 a pill , 15 years later when it had a following $48 per pill and no one else could make it. Now you can get it generic for less than $2 a pill.

They didn't have the excuse of R&D they just cashed in.
 

     Thread Starter
 

7/18/2021 10:15 am  #15


Re: Cyclodextrin- Is Curing My ED

dicklimppen wrote:

Groovin1 wrote:

So this drug when taken directly (can not be consumed orally due to the digestive system eating it)

This study shows it works when taken orally:
https://lipidworld.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12944-016-0284-6

 

Actually it doesn't ! Maybe this works on foods while still in the stomach , however it gets destroyed in the gut.HOW IS CAVADEX ADMINISTERED?CAVADEX can only be absorbed into the blood stream intravenously or via the rectum. When supplied as an enema, up to 26% of the CAVADEX® is absorbed.

This company is developing a pill than can get through the digestive system though.

 

Last edited by Groovin1 (7/18/2021 10:20 am)

     Thread Starter
 

7/18/2021 6:36 pm  #16


Re: Cyclodextrin- Is Curing My ED

Groovin1 wrote:

dicklimppen wrote:

Groovin1 wrote:

So this drug when taken directly (can not be consumed orally due to the digestive system eating it)

This study shows it works when taken orally:
https://lipidworld.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12944-016-0284-6

 

Actually it doesn't ! Maybe this works on foods while still in the stomach , however it gets destroyed in the gut.HOW IS CAVADEX ADMINISTERED?CAVADEX can only be absorbed into the blood stream intravenously or via the rectum. When supplied as an enema, up to 26% of the CAVADEX® is absorbed.

This company is developing a pill than can get through the digestive system though.

 

That shouldn't be too hard. It has to get aborbed somewhere along the digestive track otherwise you'd just poop it out unabsorbed. I'm pretty sure there are other meds that aren't absorbed until the intestines. 
 

 

7/18/2021 9:22 pm  #17


Re: Cyclodextrin- Is Curing My ED

Actually it never gets absorbed, even when in the blood stream. I circulates in the blood collect cholesterols/lipids and gets tossed out.
The only place where they have a build up it seems is in the hearing cells. So far
ototoxicity has been the only side effect worth note.

     Thread Starter
 

7/19/2021 8:35 am  #18


Re: Cyclodextrin- Is Curing My ED

Pleasework wrote:

Groovin1 wrote:

dicklimppen wrote:


This study shows it works when taken orally:
https://lipidworld.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12944-016-0284-6

 

Actually it doesn't ! Maybe this works on foods while still in the stomach , however it gets destroyed in the gut.HOW IS CAVADEX ADMINISTERED?CAVADEX can only be absorbed into the blood stream intravenously or via the rectum. When supplied as an enema, up to 26% of the CAVADEX® is absorbed.

This company is developing a pill than can get through the digestive system though.

 

That shouldn't be too hard. It has to get aborbed somewhere along the digestive track otherwise you'd just poop it out unabsorbed. I'm pretty sure there are other meds that aren't absorbed until the intestines. 
 

The study I cited shows that when taken orally it reduces cholesterol, so it is having an effect and isn't just destroyed in the stomach.
 

 

7/19/2021 9:50 pm  #19


Re: Cyclodextrin- Is Curing My ED

I am not an expert at reading these things however these results show that when taken orally it had a very tiny effect. However when injected or rectally it's a whole nother ball game as far as reversing arterial plaque.

They didn't spell out in the study that the amount of change is almost negligible ... like I said I am not an expert a reading these things yet.

Study results in link
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/results/NCT01131299

     Thread Starter
 

7/19/2021 9:59 pm  #20


Re: Cyclodextrin- Is Curing My ED

dicklimppen wrote:

Pleasework wrote:

Groovin1 wrote:


Actually it doesn't ! Maybe this works on foods while still in the stomach , however it gets destroyed in the gut.HOW IS CAVADEX ADMINISTERED?CAVADEX can only be absorbed into the blood stream intravenously or via the rectum. When supplied as an enema, up to 26% of the CAVADEX® is absorbed.

This company is developing a pill than can get through the digestive system though.

 

That shouldn't be too hard. It has to get aborbed somewhere along the digestive track otherwise you'd just poop it out unabsorbed. I'm pretty sure there are other meds that aren't absorbed until the intestines. 
 

The study I cited shows that when taken orally it reduces cholesterol, so it is having an effect and isn't just destroyed in the stomach.
 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8169787/
Here is another study that confirms it isn't effective taken orally. I kind of already did this homework , but here it goes again.

     Thread Starter
 

Board footera

 

Powered by Boardhost. Create a Free Forum